Old Timer 858OTB Genuine Bone Lumberjack Stockman Traditional Folding Pocket Knife with 3 Mirror-Polished High Carbon SS Blades, and Ergonomic Handle for EDC, Camping, Whittling, Hunting, and Outdoor

About this item

DIMENSIONS: 7.9 inch (20.2 cm) overall length with a blade length of 3.4 inches (8.7 cm) and a weight of 4.6 ounces
DURABLE: Each blade is made of reliable mirror-polished, High Carbon Stainless Steel to maintain a sharp edge and to withstand rugged outdoor use
DEPENDABLE: Convenient size and nail pulls offer quick and easy access making it ideal as an everyday carry knife
BE PREPARED: Clip point blade has an extra fine point for precision tasks, sheepsfoot blade offers a rounded tip to minimize accidental piercing, and spey blade is specialized in skinning wild game with its unobtrusive point
SECURE: Sawcut genuine bone handle features an ergonomic design and is built with nickel silver bolsters for a solid construction and classic aesthetic
GUARANTEED: This product is covered by Old Timer’s Lifetime Warranty. For questions, please contact Old Timer's customer service

• Dan J.

  As a blacksmith who designs and crafts blades from raw materials, I have the knowledge and understanding to write this comprehensive review for others to see and understand.First, to review the knife itself;It is a FULL SIZE pocket knife, these older style traditional slip joint knives dont come much larger than this. It has quality craftsmanship and durable materials. The design is a time honored classic with a multitude of uses and applications. The fit and finish are excellent. This is the high end or "top tier" model, meaning it is made from premium materials like real bone and strong steel. It comes with a good edge from the factory, but as with 90% of knives it needs to be honed and refined in order to be truly sharp.On to a comprehensive breakdown;The handle slabs are made from real bone. This material is time tested and durable, but prone to cracking during assembly. This is normal and of little concern. Some have reviewed these knives and griped about some hairline cracks around the pins, or how the scales are different shades or textures from one side of the knife to the other......this is uncontrollable and those who complain about it are simply snobs with unrealistic expectations.The bolsters are made of brass plated nickel, not actual brass. This may sound like cheap nonsense, but it's actually a good thing. Nickel is very strong where brass is soft and easily gouged. Making the bolsters of nickel and then plating them in brass gives them both strength and aesthetic appeal.The pins that hold it all together and the liners that separate the blades and create the frame are made of solid brass. This is also good. Yes, I said brass was soft and nickel was stronger, but that is actually the point of using brass here. The softness of brass will prevent damage to the blades if the blades ever contact the liners, where nickel would ruin your edge and damage the blade from only one such contact. The brass pins also prevent damage as the knife goes through normal aging and regular thermal expansion. Nickel pins would have no flex or give, resulting in cracked handles and loose liners.The back springs are strong, high carbon steel that has gone through a tempering process....a complicated process of applying heat and then cooling several times to reach a "spring" level of flex and return, allowing the steel to flex during opening of a blade, then return to it's original shape and position once fully opened or closed without damage.The blades are 9cr18mov steel......this is where things can get very complex. This steel is excellent for this knife with intentions of properly using it for general purpose. It is a hybrid of high carbon and stainless chromoly steel, giving it rust resistance and solid edge retention with good rigidity or stiffness to the blade.....but at a price. To have steel hard enough to retain its edge through use, you sacrifice the flex. If you attempt to bend the blade, it will break. If you want a flexible blade you must sacrifice the hardness and long edge retention, meaning you will need to sharpen it more often.This is model 858OTB (model 858, Old Timer product line, Bone handles).If you want a more flexible blade or flawless looking handles, I suggest going with model 858OT....it is an identical design but utilises 7cr17mov steel, which is more flexible and not highly polished. It also has strong plastic handle slabs that do not crack during assembly and will be even toned and nicer to look at if perfection is your thing. If there is something else you would like to know, post your question and I'm sure Amazon will ask me........they generally do once I submit a review.

• W. P. Buchanan

  I was worried for the price that this was going to be a disaster, but with Amazon I could send it back. I had read the reviews and watched some youtube videos and some were reporting breaking blades and thin blades. So I was expecting the worst and I almost cancelled the order. I am glad I didn't. The knife showed up, it is really nice. I love the larger size knife, it appears to be well made from what I can see, and it does not appear to have "thin blades" any more so than other knives I have handled and seen. I guess time will tell how it holds up, but It is a daily carry kind of thing and is in my pocket all the time.It is the larger size handle and blade that sold me to go this route instead of buying a Case or Bear and Son knife. Also when you order the TB which is the bone handle it has the better quality steel also compared to some of the other model Old Timer's I saw when shopping. I started off shopping for a Case or Bear, but when I couldn't find a larger knife I was about to give up when I stumbled on the Lumberjack model. I was also worried about all the talk about bad quality knives from China, but it appears this particular knife is a quality item from what I can see so far.If I have any issues I will certainly update this review, but I really like it so far and exceeded my albeit low expectations given some of the things people said, but it really is pretty nice. Give it a try and see for yourself. If you buy it from Amazon you can certainly send it back if you don't like it. I am pretty happy with this purchase so far and the price on these is pretty good.

• Robert D.

  This knife is slightly longer than a tradtional SAK, and bigger than most of the other Old Timer traditional pocket knives. The knife is large enough that it fits comfortably in my rather big hands. Has three blades, each a different style. Main blade is 3.2" which is long enough to cut through even a hoggie sandwich. Blade steel has good edge retention and stain resistance. I quick touch up with a leather strop and it is razor sharp like a good knife should be. Definitely worth the price. One of my EDC choices.

• Darrell F. Harvey

  Knife is nice and well put together but nail Knicks in main blade and spey blade are shallow which makes them a challenge to open. Otherwise a nice large stockman.

• Scott Bishop

  The only complaint I have with this products Five star rating is that the knife is larger in size than I expected though still fits perfect in the hand. Sharp, easy opening, clean style. The work horse I was expecting from the start. Great as a gift I am sure of that.

• Cheryl Moore

  Great knife and craftsmanship.

• Rebecca belding

  I purchased this for my husband for Christmas and he loves it. It's small enough to put in your pants pocket.

• nol8fr8

  I've been carrying an oldtimer for years. I was looking for a Christmas gift from my brother-in-law's and seen these for that price so I bought three and really was impressed with them when I got them.So I ordered one for myself. A good knife for the money.

• KC

  Nearly forty years ago, I bought an Old Timer Lumberjack with the Delrin scales. In those days, the 858OT came with a leather belt sheath, but it felt in-between as a folder; a little too small for belt carry, but a tad large for pocket carry. I ended up putting it in a drawer. I came across it some weeks ago and found it in great condition, though the clip knife blade spring felt a little weak for my tastes, and, well, it's a classic Old Timer. A check for a modern version brought up the 858OTB, the Lumberjack with bone scales instead of Delrin. The price was right and I decided to give it a try.The bone handle fits well with the bolsters and had the Old Timer sawcut finish. The bolsters look practically identical to my old one, The blades are mirror finished, and the style of the fingernail grooves put me in mind of Roughrider (tm) knives. The blades are a tad thinner than my classic 858OT, and the clip point blade is about 3/16" (4.8 mm) shorter. The spey blade is slightly different, but not terribly so, though the sheepsfoot blade is about 1/4" (6.4 mm) shorter. The 858OTB feels close to the same weight. The center brass pin sits a little higher than my old 858 OT. Unlike the 858OT of about forty years ago, the 858OTB does not come with a belt holster, but note my observation of wearing the 858OT on a belt.I can't complain about the fit or finish. The blades are polished to mirror brightness. Bone is a natural material and will have some minute variations, but I found no cracks, and found a small area on the blade side that had filler, but had to look to find it. There is one tiny ding of about 1/16" (1.6mm) on one bolster where it meets the scale. Given the price (currently on sale at about $22 US), I can't complain.Blade sharpness was spotty, with the clip and spey blade passably sharp, but the sheepsfoot blade terribly dull. With a few exceptions, I always have to sharpen a new knife, so that wasn't disappointing. It didn't take long to bring all the blades to desired sharpness.So far I'm happy with this purchase. Will I once again find the knife a bit large for pocket carry? Don't know. If I do, that will strictly be a matter of personal taste.

• Jamie R.

  Before I start - I recognize that this knife is like $20. I am not looking for Great Eastern quality. Also, the knife DOES cut. I gave it a couple stars for even backsprings, no gaping, a nice polish, and excellent walk and talk.The quality control on this knife is exceptionally poor. It came, brand new, out of the box with polish compound globbed onto the bone scales that was EXTREMELY difficult to remove. It had to be chiseled off with an X-acto knife, damaging the saw-cut pattern in the process. Speaking of polishing compound - all of the joints were full of it. It took a long time of oiling/working the joints for it to all come out and for the action to start to smooth up.Now the real problem - The grinds on this knife are TERRIBLE. I expect some unevenness from a knife in this price range, but this is really unacceptable. All of the blades have a recurve from being over sharpened at the heal, the secondary grinds vary greatly from one side of the blade to another. I used a fixed angle sharpening system to determine the angles, and on the sheepsfoot blade, one side is 13 degrees, and the other is 37 degrees! Terrible! You can also see where the person/machine that ground that bevel twisted the knife as they approached the heal, causing extreme angle variations along the length of the edge. On the clip point blade, ON ONE SIDE, the angle varies from 15 degrees at the tip, to 25 degrees at the heal. Also, the grinds are wavy and uneven. On the clip blade there are areas where the grind is very wide, yet just an inch further down the edge is so thin that it is nearly chisel ground.I was excited to see a real bone handle Schrade with a better steel, but these quality control issues are ridiculous. If you don't mind tinkering with a knife to "make it right", go for it... Otherwise, stay away.*did not mention that the bone is cracked by the back spring pin on one side... This is "normal" enough, I guess, but still disappointing. Also - some have commented on the middle pin protruding - it is my understanding that this is intentional. I don't understand why, but I thought I would mention it.